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		<title>By: Richard Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ricardo

I understand wanting to feel part of a tradition. Very much. And what someone wants to call themselves  is completely up to them, not me. Since I wrote this post I&#039;ve seen the word &quot;foundry&quot; used on newly written web pages three times. I&#039;m being outvoted!
And I&#039;m certainly not on a crusade to do away with the word. Only to suggest alternatives and point out that, while many computer users know that a font is a typeface, few will be familiar with the historical connection to cast metal type foundries and may even be confused by it.
Mark Pilgrim took full advantage of the word&#039;s vague historical connotations in the minds of most readers to turn what is, in fact, a rather rag-tag and disorganized community into a looming menace to the future of web typography. WTF, eh?
BTW - you&#039;re absolutely right about typography, it is all about habit. Changes come very very slowly.
Although  I would argue that the Internet and the huge increase in reading from screens has caused an unprecedented disconnect from the conventions of print typography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ricardo</p>
<p>I understand wanting to feel part of a tradition. Very much. And what someone wants to call themselves  is completely up to them, not me. Since I wrote this post I&#8217;ve seen the word &#8220;foundry&#8221; used on newly written web pages three times. I&#8217;m being outvoted!<br />
And I&#8217;m certainly not on a crusade to do away with the word. Only to suggest alternatives and point out that, while many computer users know that a font is a typeface, few will be familiar with the historical connection to cast metal type foundries and may even be confused by it.<br />
Mark Pilgrim took full advantage of the word&#8217;s vague historical connotations in the minds of most readers to turn what is, in fact, a rather rag-tag and disorganized community into a looming menace to the future of web typography. WTF, eh?<br />
BTW &#8211; you&#8217;re absolutely right about typography, it is all about habit. Changes come very very slowly.<br />
Although  I would argue that the Internet and the huge increase in reading from screens has caused an unprecedented disconnect from the conventions of print typography.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Esteves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo Esteves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know, there is some historical reasons for the term &quot;foundry&quot;. I agree that it is alredy obsolete because there is no more metal to became liquid and solid again. Some companies use things like &quot;font house&quot; and &quot;type studio&quot; that seems to be more adequate. However &quot;foundry&quot; and &quot;digital foundry&quot; still in use for the most companies and type designers involved in offering brand new fonts on the market. It&#039;s a matter of tradition, nothing more to defend. But all of our reading habits is a matter of tradition too. A legacy from the old calligraphers, book makers, punchcutters and real foundries. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know, there is some historical reasons for the term &#8220;foundry&#8221;. I agree that it is alredy obsolete because there is no more metal to became liquid and solid again. Some companies use things like &#8220;font house&#8221; and &#8220;type studio&#8221; that seems to be more adequate. However &#8220;foundry&#8221; and &#8220;digital foundry&#8221; still in use for the most companies and type designers involved in offering brand new fonts on the market. It&#8217;s a matter of tradition, nothing more to defend. But all of our reading habits is a matter of tradition too. A legacy from the old calligraphers, book makers, punchcutters and real foundries. <img src='http://readableweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Fink</title>
		<link>http://readableweb.com/fonts-yes-foundries-no/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gordon Woolf,

If I understand you correctly, you&#039;re saying that &quot;foundry&quot; carries with it a positive connotation of expertise.
Thanks for that perspective, it didn&#039;t occur to me.
BTW - what got me thinking about all this, in addition to Mark Pilgrim&#039;s infamous blog post, was that at the Web Fonts Panel at TypeCon2009, type designer John Hudson - as head of his own company Tiro - was introduced as a &quot;font producer&quot;.
Myself, I&#039;m leaning towards &quot;font studio&quot; or &quot;type studio&quot; as a replacement for &quot;foundry&quot;, meaning a company that makes fonts on a professional level.
Any other ideas greatly welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gordon Woolf,</p>
<p>If I understand you correctly, you&#8217;re saying that &#8220;foundry&#8221; carries with it a positive connotation of expertise.<br />
Thanks for that perspective, it didn&#8217;t occur to me.<br />
BTW &#8211; what got me thinking about all this, in addition to Mark Pilgrim&#8217;s infamous blog post, was that at the Web Fonts Panel at TypeCon2009, type designer John Hudson &#8211; as head of his own company Tiro &#8211; was introduced as a &#8220;font producer&#8221;.<br />
Myself, I&#8217;m leaning towards &#8220;font studio&#8221; or &#8220;type studio&#8221; as a replacement for &#8220;foundry&#8221;, meaning a company that makes fonts on a professional level.<br />
Any other ideas greatly welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Woolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Woolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not see anything wrong with using an archaic word to differentiate the professional, skilled type designers from the amateurs. Foundries of old were not necessarily large - just as the one man in his backyard could be a skilled smithy, the man who&#039;d make anything in metal, the present day font founder may have moved inside to the computer in his home office but he still needs a term to differentiate him from those who can produce a font but only one that will crash our design and layout programs. I look up to present day font foundries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see anything wrong with using an archaic word to differentiate the professional, skilled type designers from the amateurs. Foundries of old were not necessarily large &#8211; just as the one man in his backyard could be a skilled smithy, the man who&#8217;d make anything in metal, the present day font founder may have moved inside to the computer in his home office but he still needs a term to differentiate him from those who can produce a font but only one that will crash our design and layout programs. I look up to present day font foundries.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
		<link>http://readableweb.com/fonts-yes-foundries-no/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, I fixed my blog post, thanks for the heads up and teaching me this.  db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I fixed my blog post, thanks for the heads up and teaching me this.  db</p>
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